Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/15/2003 09:45 PM House HES

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HB 292-ABORTION: INFORMED CONSENT; INFORMATION                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL NO. 292, "An  Act relating to information and services                                                               
available  to  pregnant women  and  other  persons; and  ensuring                                                               
informed consent before  an abortion may be  performed, except in                                                               
cases of medical emergency."                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1389                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NANCY  DAHLSTROM,  Alaska State  Legislature,  as                                                               
sponsor of HB 292, answered questions from the committee.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 1400                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL moved  to  adopt  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS) for  HB  292,  Version 23-LS0867\I,  Lauterbach,                                                               
5/15/03, as  a work draft.   Hearing no objection, Version  I was                                                               
before the committee.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  told the  committee that  there are  two amendments                                                               
that will be considered.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 1445                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved to adopt Amendment 1.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1649                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REX  SHATTUCK, Staff  to Representative  Nancy Dahlstrom,  Alaska                                                               
State Legislature,  explained changes to CSHB  292(HES), proposed                                                               
amendments, and  answered questions from the  members.  Amendment                                                               
1 read as follows:                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 28, following "woman":                                                                                        
       Insert "and the pregnant woman's estate, and only                                                                        
         to the pregnant woman and the pregnant woman's                                                                         
     estate,"                                                                                                                   
          Following "damages":                                                                                                  
               Insert "caused by the violation"                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHATTUCK told  the committee  that the  language on  page 4,                                                               
line 28,  is to ensure  that a lawsuit  could only be  brought by                                                               
the pregnant  woman or  her estate.   On  line 29,  following the                                                               
word  "damages",  the  insertion  of the  words  "caused  by  the                                                               
violation" is speaking to a lawsuit that may be brought forward.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Number 1649                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL removed his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON announced  that without  objection Amendment  1 has                                                               
been adopted by  the House Health, Education  and Social Services                                                               
Standing Committee.   Chair Wilson  announced that  the committee                                                               
would now take up Amendment 2.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 1584                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK  briefly reviewed Amendment 2,  which read [original                                                               
punctuation provided]:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 13,                                                                                                           
     After "on the Internet" insert the words                                                                                   
          that is reviewed and approved for medical                                                                           
     accuracy    and     appropriateness    by    recognized                                                                  
     Obstetric/Gynecological  specialists designated  by the                                                                  
     State Medical Board and                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 2,                                                                                                            
     After "on the Internet" insert the words                                                                                   
          that is reviewed and approved for medical                                                                           
     accuracy    and     appropriateness    by    recognized                                                                  
     Obstetric/Gynecological  specialists designated  by the                                                                  
     State Medical Board                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 7 through 9,                                                                                                 
     Delete all material                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 22,                                                                                                           
     After "and services;" insert                                                                                               
          and                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, 23,                                                                                                                
     Create a new sub-section that shall read                                                                                   
          {C} agencies, services, clinics and facilities                                                                    
     designed  to assist  or  provide contraceptive  options                                                                  
     and   counseling  to   help  prevent   future  unwanted                                                                  
     pregnancies;                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 30,                                                                                                           
     After "abortions services;" insert                                                                                         
          and   the   circumstantial    criteria   for   the                                                                  
     availability   of  medical   assistance  benefits   for                                                                  
     contraception;                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 12,                                                                                                           
     After "objective, nonjudgmental, and" insert                                                                               
          that is reviewed and approved for medical                                                                           
     accuracy    and     appropriateness    by    recognized                                                                  
     Obstetric/Gynecological  specialists designated  by the                                                                  
     State Medical Board and                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 15,                                                                                                           
     After "information that" insert                                                                                            
          is reviewed and approved for medical accuracy and                                                                   
     appropriateness  by recognized  Obstetric/Gynecological                                                                  
     specialists designated by the State medical Board and                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 20,                                                                                                           
     After "unbiased information" insert                                                                                        
          that is reviewed and approved for medical                                                                           
     accuracy    and     appropriateness    by    recognized                                                                  
     Obstetric/Gynecological  specialists designated  by the                                                                  
     State Medical Board                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 24,                                                                                                           
     Create a new sub-section that shall read                                                                                   
          (9)     contains    objective,     unbiased    and                                                                  
     comprehensive   information   that  is   reviewed   and                                                                  
     approved  for medical  accuracy and  appropriateness by                                                                  
     recognized      Obstetric/Gynecological     specialists                                                                  
     designated  by the  State  Medical  Board on  different                                                                  
     types  of  available   contraceptive  choices  and  the                                                                  
     medical  risk   and  possible   complications  commonly                                                                  
     associated  with each  method as  well as  the possible                                                                  
     psychological  effects that  have been  associated with                                                                  
     using contraceptives;                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 3, line 24,                                                                                                           
     Delete                                                                                                                     
          (9)                                                                                                                 
     Insert                                                                                                                     
          (10)                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 30,                                                                                                           
     After "AS 18.16.060(b)(1){C} insert                                                                                        
          and (D)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, line 31,                                                                                                           
     After "evidence that" delete                                                                                               
          the person gave to the woman a written                                                                              
     And insert                                                                                                                 
          the woman received or reviewed a                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 1,                                                                                                            
     After "AS 18.05.032" insert                                                                                                
          at least 24 hours                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 21,                                                                                                           
     After "the abortion" insert                                                                                                
          , a member of the physician's staff who is a                                                                        
     licensed healthcare provider                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, line 21,                                                                                                           
     After "physician has" delete                                                                                               
          orally                                                                                                              
     And insert                                                                                                                 
          verbally                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     Page 6, line 1,                                                                                                            
     After "shall provide it;" insert                                                                                           
          the requirements of this subparagraph may be                                                                        
     satisfied by a  member of the physician's  staff who is                                                                  
     a licensed healthcare  provider performing the required                                                                  
     activities if they offer the  person the opportunity to                                                                  
     consult   a  physician;   the   requirements  of   this                                                                  
     paragraph may also  be satisfied if the  physician or a                                                                  
     member  of  the  physician's staff  receives  from  the                                                                  
     person an appropriately dated and  signed from [sic] of                                                                
     the type  described in AS.18.05.032(a)(10)  and retains                                                                  
     the form in the patient's file;                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 12,                                                                                                           
     After "required in (b)(1)" insert                                                                                          
          {A}-{C}                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, line 15,                                                                                                           
     After "ask questions." insert                                                                                              
          Provision of the information telephonically or by                                                                   
     electronic  mail  or regular  mail  at  least 24  hours                                                                  
     prior  to   the  person's  appointment   satisfies  the                                                                  
     requirements  of this  section  as long  as the  person                                                                  
     whose  consent is  required under  (a) of  this section                                                                  
     has  an opportunity  to ask  questions after  receiving                                                                  
     the information.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK  told the committee  that the change in  language on                                                               
page 1, line 13 is agreed  upon language provided so that someone                                                               
is  designated as  an appropriate  medical person  to review  the                                                               
material for accuracy and appropriateness.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL commented that  it appears that the entire                                                               
first page  of the  amendment deals  with conforming  language to                                                               
the Medical  Board having purview  on this information.   He told                                                               
the members  that that had been  his objection when the  bill was                                                               
heard  the first  time.   He said  he reviewed  the statutes  and                                                               
found  that this  is an  appropriate role  for the  state Medical                                                               
Board; therefore,  he will remove  his objection to  this portion                                                               
of the amendment.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK agreed with  Representative Coghill's statement that                                                               
the  first  page is  conforming  language  inserted all  the  way                                                               
through the bill.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SHATTUCK   referred  the  committee  to   the  next  change,                                                               
beginning on  page 3,  line 24, which  creates a  new subsection.                                                               
He said this change again  uses the agreed upon language "medical                                                               
accuracy       and       appropriateness      by       recognized                                                               
Obstetric/Gynecological  specialist",  but  in this  case  it  is                                                               
directed toward  contraceptive use.   On the  same page  and line                                                               
there  is  a  renumbering  of the  sub-sections  to  reflect  the                                                               
insertion  of the  new  sub-section.   On  page  4,  line 30,  it                                                               
inserts "and (D)",  which includes an earlier section.   He said,                                                               
"Page 4, line 31, changes the language, so..."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  asked if  the change on  page 4,  line 31,                                                               
was made to allow for a  woman to download the information off of                                                               
the Internet.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK responded that is correct.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK  said that  on page  5, line  [21], the  agreed upon                                                               
language  was inserted  after looking  into the  definition of  a                                                               
licensed healthcare  provider.   It does  reach the  threshold of                                                               
ensuring that it  is a licensed nurse,  physician's assistant, or                                                               
someone with a medical background.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK  pointed out  that on  page 5, line  21, there  is a                                                               
change  recommended by  Legislative Legal  and Research  Services                                                               
that deletes the word "orally" and inserts "verbally".                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK  said that on page  6, line 1, the  amendment poorly                                                               
reflects the  transaction that  should actually  take place.   He                                                               
told the committee  the inserted language is a  rewording of that                                                               
section.    In  response  to a  request  for  clarification  from                                                               
Representative Coghill,  he explained  that the  change beginning                                                               
on page 6, line 1, would read as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     After the words "physician shall provide it;" delete                                                                       
     the  requirement  of  this  subparagraph  may  also  be                                                                  
     satisfied  if   a  nurse  who   is  a  member   of  the                                                                  
     physician's   staff   informs   the   person   of   the                                                                  
     availability of  the Internet  information, distributes                                                                  
     a copy  of the Internet  information to the  person, if                                                                  
     requested,  and offers  the  person  an opportunity  to                                                                  
     consult with the physician                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     and insert                                                                                                                 
          the requirements of this subparagraph may be                                                                        
     satisfied by a  member of the physician's  staff who is                                                                  
     a licensed healthcare  provider performing the required                                                                  
     activities if they offer the  person the opportunity to                                                                  
     consult   a  physician;   the   requirements  of   this                                                                  
     paragraph may also  be satisfied if the  physician or a                                                                  
     member  of  the  physician's staff  receives  from  the                                                                  
     person an  appropriately dated and  signed from  of the                                                                  
     type described  in AS.18.05.032(a)(10) and  retains the                                                                  
     form in the patient's file;                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. SHATTUCK  responded to a  question by  Representative Coghill                                                               
regarding  the  changes on  page  6,  by  saying they  relate  to                                                               
electronic communication.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  commented that this language  provides for patients                                                               
to  get  information [ahead  of  their  visit]  by means  of  the                                                               
Internet.   [By  doing  this  first, before  traveling  to see  a                                                               
doctor, the 24-hour  period they currently have to  wait would be                                                               
met already].   Then patients could just go for  a doctor's visit                                                               
and  leave.   She said  that she  believes this  change is  a big                                                               
improvement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL removed his objection to Amendment 2.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1889                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  announced that, without objection,  Amendment 2 has                                                               
passed the  House Health, Education and  Social Services Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1908                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL moved  to  report CSHB  292 [Version  23-                                                               
LS0862\I, Lauterbach, 5/15/03, as  amended] out of committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being no  objection, CSHB 292(HES) was reported  out of the                                                               
House Health, Education and Social Services Standing Committee.                                                                 

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